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Upcoming Policy Changes

  • Knj00
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    13:01, September 25, 2013

    Hello,

    We wanted to let you know that in order to comply with federal law, Wikia is reviewing the way it handles communities that may be considered directed to people 12 years of age or younger.

    This wiki has been flagged as falling into that category, and I wanted to let you know about it. While I know Dragon Story has many fans of all ages, it can also be especially appealing to the younger demographic for purposes of the newly revised Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act (COPPA).

    The only change you will notice is that we will be turning anonymous editing off for wikis in this category. Your users will still be able to edit and participate. They just need to make sure that they are logged in first. We hope the impact on your community will be minimal.

    We realize this might be an inconvenience, but this is a step Wikia has to take in order to make sure we are in compliance with federal law. You can find out more about COPPA here: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2012/12/coppa.shtm.

    The changes to the law will be going into effect July 1st, 2013 although you may see some changes before then. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

    Thanks, and Happy Editing! --semanticdrifter @fandom (help forum | blog) 23:20, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

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    • So does this mean anons will not even be able to comment since they are labled as edits or will it just be actual page editing?

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    • That is a great question and I would like to know the answer as well.  We have so many anons contributing to this wiki.  If they have to make an account to post comments on pages or walls, this will hurt us a lot.  There are plenty of helpful anons over the legal age who just don't want to make an account for their own personal reasons.

      I'm also not sure how disabling anonymous editing would prevent children under 13 from lying about their age to make an account.  >_<  I understand that you just need to do this to comply with federal law, but this will negatively impact our wiki.

      More than half of our userbase is made up of anonymous editors.  Many have contributed helpful edits and comments to our wiki, and many do not wish to create user accounts.  If their editing rights are taken from them, we will lose them.  I disagree with the choice of action for this problem.  Please reconsider.

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    • Knj00 wrote:
      So does this mean anons will not even be able to comment since they are labled as edits or will it just be actual page editing?

      That is correct, I'm afraid.

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    • Sylvandyr wrote:
      More than half of our userbase is made up of anonymous editors.  Many have contributed helpful edits and comments to our wiki, and many do not wish to create user accounts.  If their editing rights are taken from them, we will lose them.  I disagree with the choice of action for this problem.  Please reconsider.

      This isn't a slam against anons. We were all anons once :) Unfortunately, the updates to the federal law make this a policy change that Wikia needs to implement in order to stay in compliance.

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    • I guess what you are saying is that we need to try to protect the minors. If that is the case then would there be a possibility for you to have some kind of parental's signature so they are able to use the website?

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    • That is not a solution we're pursuing at this time.

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    • So, If we are not logged in, We Will not be able to edit but I, Since I am always logged in this will not be a problem will it? 

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    • It shouldn't affect you directly.

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    • Ok. I was wondering.

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    • Sorry guys, I know this sucks but you can't really do anything about government. :/

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    • What is the minimum age again?

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    • Palquia wrote:
      What is the minimum age again?


      13

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    • For more info on this change, please see the Community Central blog post. Feel free to comment on the general policy there, and keep the wiki specific discussion here. Thanks, --semanticdrifter @fandom (help forum | blog) 19:23, June 24, 2013 (UTC)

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    • I guess I see this differently than most people. Are we really placing QUANTITY of numbers in front of the saftey of minors? This should have been a No-Brainer. We have fun here this is true, however when things are not handled properly, it causes a chain reaction. Wikia is a business, and will protect its assets and compy with the law, so Im very confused as to why people are upset over this. Maybe you dont have children or younger brothers and sisters, but trust me, this is a good thing. Nothing is going to change at all. On the front page for a few weeks after thiws goes live, feature How To Make An Account. Give them step by step even a vidoe. That way if they truly want to be part of the community, they will create an account. Once a weeks has past shrink it down and place it on the side bar. Nothing is going to change much other than the rush of account sign ups and lots of questions for Admins to answer. :)

      Happy Compliance Day! <33

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    • Couldn't have said it better.

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    • I never had a phone when I was 12.

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    • Ragnelle wrote:
      I never had a phone when I was 12.

      Lol, I did.... :O I got one in Second Grade... :> I was kind of SPoiled. 

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    • I'm having mixed feelings about this new policy...

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    • FUNNYRANDOMNESS5112 wrote:
      Ragnelle wrote:
      I never had a phone when I was 12.
      Lol, I did.... :O I got one in Second Grade... :> I was kind of SPoiled. 

      LUCKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • It is what it is. And federal law is federal law. All we can do is accept the policy change so that Wikia can stay legal and hopefully recruit some new account members for those who wish to continue to post, blog, or contribute.

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    • yup. federal law is Basic Law.

      That means...

      ...No More Randoms!

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    • HamstaMaster wrote:
      I'm having mixed feelings about this new policy...

      This post is not aimed at Hamsta, it was just a nice heading to kind of explain my thoughts. Thanks Hamham. <3  (Sorry tried to make it short, but its important that everyone understand the whys and how comes.)

      Nothing to feel uneasy about.  :) Either the policy is followed or Wikia is fined and/or  goes offline for failing to comply with said Law. Its not just here its all over the net for sites that are appealing to younger kiddos. I know its hard to understand for most, but laws are laws. Some of the people on this site shouldnt be here, and they know that. They circumvented the rules to get on, and there is no way to absolutely make sure everyone is 13+. So the least that can be done is protect those that follow the rules, AND those that dont, from those that arent so friendly. As long as Wikia is doing as it is told, they are safe and so are all of you. After the community comes Wikia. If they abide by the law, then your community will be here for you to commune. If people want to hide behind a computer screen, thats okay nothing wrong if its just being shy, but for THIS wikia page to grow, so too must the people that use it. There is no debate, and they are not "asking" you to vote on it. Its a done deal. Not vote, no trying to change it. Besides there is only one safe way to make sure people are who they say they are, and no one wants that. It would become a site that kiddos cant reach. Whats the use in that?

      Sorry, but I have to agree on this Law. There are too many unsavory people out today that would love nothing more than to hurt innocent kids just trying to have fun, and WAY too many kids trying to grow up too fast. I for one am glad that at least this is a positive step in protecting them no matter how silly they may get.  :P  If we are supposed to be a community, then arent we supposed to be protecting one another, especially the "little ones?"

      Who knows, maybe this way some of the "shy ones" will finally have that little nudge they needed to come out and really be apart of the community, so we can reference them by name instead of Anon Addy 48.48.5484949.2 That cant be all bad. Nothing much will really change. People can stay anon, they just can not participate in editing or commenting, many do that now and this is fine, but some day there will be that post they just HAVE to comment on and it will reel them in finally.

      More Happy Breedings To Come! <3

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    • @ Lady Skyy

      Very well said. I actually enjoyed reading your post thoroughly. And since Wikia is in the position of "follow the law or go the way of the dodo bird" it stands to reason that abiding by the law is what they will do. I haven't found anywhere else on the web that has the support and level of content for DS that the DS-Wikia has. Therefore, I am staying regardless of what happens. (At least until I get thoroughly burned out on DS. Which won't happen anytime soon.) The comraderie here is bar-none as well, which just bolsters your point

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    • @2twisted4U

      Thanks, Im just having a problem understanding why people are so upset about this Law. Its seems to come not so much from the Community at large but a small portion of the Staff of said sites. I know that some of them are "younger" and may not understand fully why this Law HAS to be. Like you said this is a great place to be. I can only see it getting better with the addition to people joining. Nothing wrong with being a "Shadow Peeker," they just have a name now.  :) I just wish the Staff of sites did something a bit more than just paste a big 'ol "Policy change: Due to circumstances beyong Wikia control," that has such a negitive ring to it. But we shall see here coming July, 1st what it means. I just hope that the Anons have been reading and are making accounts. To those that are under 13, Im sorry kiddos, you will always have a place here no one said you had to leave, when you hit 13 I know you will just be flooding the boards. If you have questions and have a friend that IS 13+ have them post it for you. Or have a parent join and sit with you as you direct them on how and what to do. Nothing wrong with sneaking in a bit of Family Time as well. (Hint Hint Mommys and Daddys) >:) Maybe Staff can set up something like a Parents corner. Thats why I wish there was more involvement BEFORE the change date.

      Anywho, have fun guys and remember its not the end, its just the begining of something new.

      Happy Breeding Gang!  And welcome to the once Anon! <3

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    • @Lady Skyy

      Love the ideas!

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    • Here is Semanticdrifter blog, it contains some additional information about this change.

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    • Am 13 Wait a minute what is happening? O.o

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    • Basically, since July 1st everyone has to be logged into an account to edit/post on this wiki. It's because of a federal law, so we can't really do anything to change it.

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    • EzzaA wrote:
      Am 13

      Wait a minute what is happening? O.o

      Due to changes with the Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act (COPPA) anonymous editing/commenting is no longer allowed on this wiki. When you edit/comment anonymously your IP address is shown if you have an account it is not. This change is an attempt by wikia to comply with the new law that helps keep kids under 13 from having there IP address shown. Also, you must be 13 or older to have an account. I'm not happy about this change but as Kitteh has said it is law and there is nothing we can do about it.

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    • Knj00
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      13:56, July 3, 2013
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    • I think everyone should post a picture and have fun and talk about dragons!! Anon posters are just lazy.

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    • Well I was an anon up until my 13th birthday, and I'm sure there are many others itching to turn 13 so they can get accounts.

      As for dragons, Knight looks epic but will be so hard to get. Ceaser is on my top 5, Kite top 10. I just can't get them! I've gotten about 20 peacocks though.

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    • Please keep the discussion on this thread specific to the policy change. For all dragon related discussion please use another forum thread or dragon page. Thanks :)

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    • As an update has the site actually seen more joining, or has it scared off many of the Wall-Flowers? I know its only been a week or so, but has anyone seem a difference as of yet? If not now Im sure the month will tell. Kind of exciting wondering if this Wikia has what it takes to grow. Met some really nice people, would like others to do the same. =)

      Happy Breedings! <3

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    • @LS: The number of views have not taken a hit but the number of edits/comments has. The views still being good is expected though since lots of people come for the calculators and breeding info. I have seen a few new members this week and as you said it has only been a week so hopefully it will pick up.

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    • People are shy about edit/commenting.  Afraid they will do something wrong, not sure what to edit, or if they will be received well. It just takes awhile to gauge friendliness. It took awhile for me, to actually comment or edit for certain reasons. But after you "get to know" whom to avoid and whom seems friendly enough to acknowledge you and inviting to you it gets easier. Like I said it may just take a post they really feelso strongly that they have to post, that will bring them in. =)  Heres to hoping growth will come. @*:*@

      Happy Gatherings All! <3

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    • I have and preferred to be an anon commenter/editor, however I did create an account. I'm sure others will too. My big issue with joining communities like this, is receiving too many emails. A note to people who haven't joined Wikia for this reason, the option to turn off all notifications/emails is available. It's actually nice to have a page to keep track of what I follow and edit.

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    • @GrEEnEyedGoldiE: That is so true lots of people don't want the emails. I had to tell someone just the other day how to turn off the emails because they didn't want to get them either. They were also wondering if other people here can see their email and the answer is no. I believe only the main wikia staff could possibly access that info if needed.

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    • For anyone concerned about email, you can always change your preferences here

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    • We can always move the Wiki offshore........... dun dun dun.

      I am joking.

      I created an account so I could participate (although I'd just found this site and haven't posted Anon). Now you all get to see my cat.

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    • What a lovly Kittie. I cant use mine. Its like they KNOW its their picture, I use one the other two whine, and I cant seem to get all three of them to get close enough to get one with all three.

      Glad you created an account, so much nicer to to @Therece than @<insert loooooong number> :) Welcome to the Community, hope you enjoy it.

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    • Thanks for the welcome :)


      I do wish I had found this site a little earlier though, say... like before Mistmoth expired!

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    • T.T I am SO upset its gone too, it was one of the Dragons I wanted most, just so pretty. I like new dragons, but not at the price of losing long time favs. I dont get a crack at the Gem Draggies so at least just leave the ones I can get alone already! LOL but then you turn around estatic you finally got that coveted Dragon only to realize you can buy the d-dashin Habi! >.< So but Im not spending another dime til TL wakes up. Oh well back to enjoying both my Dragon families. @*:*@

      Happy Breedings Guys! <3

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    • Maybe with Age comes weirdness as I like that if someone has something worth saying or reading there should be an ID attached... JMHO

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    • sometimes I wonder why people bother! who does it hurt to comply with these laws really? anyone can make up false info for a technically "anon" account... no one is asking you to mail in picture ID... whats the big deal? is it really bothering anyone who isn't doing things they oughtn't do in the first place?


      I support anything that makes it more difficult for predators to opperate in my online community!

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    • Seriously? This thread is still going almost 3 months after this change came into effect?

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